tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post3421965746924722013..comments2024-03-29T10:00:30.348-04:00Comments on IT IS HIGH! IT IS FAR! IT IS... caught.: Did the helium balloon pop on Yangervis?Stanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17758839786688249648noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post-28895604176284536882014-04-24T00:14:39.558-04:002014-04-24T00:14:39.558-04:00John M. cites David Ortiz as an example of a "...John M. cites David Ortiz as an example of a "clutch" player. Here is his overall lifetime slash line:<br /><br />.286/333/449<br /><br />Here's his lifetime slash line in late and close situations:<br /><br />.259/.373/.499<br /><br />That's a lower batting average but a slight uptick in on-base and slugging--but overall, not a dramatic difference.<br /><br />Look up the same numbers for any and all clutch situations for anyone you want: Mantle, DiMaggio, Williams, Mays, Jeter, etc.--you will see the same pattern: the lifetime clutch-situation numbers do not diverge markedly from the overall lifetime numbers.<br /><br />These are all traditional stats--so I wonder what John M. makes of the fact that these kinds of numbers show no difference in offensive performance in clutch situations for nearly all players--even those players reputed to be clutch--and show no consistent difference with and without "protection."<br /><br />Nevertheless, John M. urges us to share his faith that there are clutch players and that lineup protection is real. Yet he has no more evidence for these claims than a belief in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. I guess we'll just have to take his word for it.Conradnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post-57625325846248587302014-04-23T23:58:44.435-04:002014-04-23T23:58:44.435-04:00Clutch play is not a myth--the myth is clutch play...Clutch play is not a myth--the myth is clutch players. Of course there are moments when someone has a clutch at-bat. What no one has ever shown is that, given a sufficiently large sample size, any player has markedly higher offensive numbers in clutch situations than in nonclutch situations. If John M. would care to provide some examples, I'm sure we would all be the wiser for it.<br /><br />Batting average is a meaningful stat--it's just not the most revealing indicator of offensive performance--not by a long shot.<br /><br />Instead of spewing ad hominem anger in post after post (in the intervals of deploring personal attacks, of course), John M. might care to do a little reading in this area so he can make some informed judgments.<br /><br />For starters, I suggest Thorn and Palmer's Hidden Game of Baseball (out of print but available on amazon) and Baseball Between the Numbers by the editors of Baseball Prospectus.Chetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post-35810925020798045512014-04-23T13:32:55.514-04:002014-04-23T13:32:55.514-04:00Well said Alphonso! Well said Alphonso! Ken of Brooklynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post-53177713906650849382014-04-23T11:48:47.470-04:002014-04-23T11:48:47.470-04:00I hate to say; they were pretty classy.
I think ...I hate to say; they were pretty classy.<br /><br />I think the community of hate has mellowed a bit, since the tragedy last year.<br /><br />Everyone suffered, and everyone knows that baseball is baseball.<br /><br />Jacoby gave them everything he had to give,and they knew it. Plus, they could have kept him but chose not to do so.Alphonsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03294726065596642068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post-81206649542338577702014-04-23T10:39:06.101-04:002014-04-23T10:39:06.101-04:00Solarte's two bare-handed grabs were great las...Solarte's two bare-handed grabs were great last night but let's also recognize Tex for an awesome tag on one of them. Fun game, right?<br /><br />BTW, what is the verdict on redsock fans last night? Boorish or classy or somewhere in between? KDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12786763318236024476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post-3009467301573336192014-04-23T10:26:11.511-04:002014-04-23T10:26:11.511-04:00But how many errors does Solarte have? He had two ...But how many errors does Solarte have? He had two amazing defensive plays. He could not get another hit for the rest of April and still be light years ahead of Nunez.<br /><br />I'd attribute his current slump to facing lefty batters. He still hits something like .400 left handed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post-64019527927749496362014-04-23T07:54:05.667-04:002014-04-23T07:54:05.667-04:00Duque, since protection in the lineup and clutch p...Duque, since protection in the lineup and clutch play are both proven myths, and the stats prove it, I think this dip in Solarte's BA is also a myth perpetuated by those old, crusty MLB guys who continue to post batting averages when we know that W+RATaTooIE is a far superior way to grade a batter.<br /><br />The next time Ortiz comes up with guys on base and we're up by only a run or two, I'll try to remember how clutch hitting is a myth when he buries one in the right field bleachers. That will make it much better.JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09876016557456927299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932285159851204335.post-15805756791545455422014-04-23T07:15:56.102-04:002014-04-23T07:15:56.102-04:00You're making me wish I remembered sterlings d...You're making me wish I remembered sterlings diagnosis of the situation. Apparently there's a certain pitch he can't hit. I hope this isn't a Shane Spencer reincarnation... Lindsey Lohan can only take so much vaginal abuse from lost great hopes.Beauregard Jackson Pickett Burnsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886798862020174617noreply@blogger.com