So I am sure you all already know this, but for the record: Soto leads the AL in Defensive Games at RF (145), leads in putouts at RF (289; Santander a distant second at 262), tied for first with two other players in assists in RF (9), and tied for first place with Santander in fielding percentage for RF (.993). I believe those numbers qualify him as a GG finalist in RF.
Playing the most games in right field only means you didn't get injured.
The number of putouts is greater because more games equals more putouts. Plus, in Yankee Stadium teams bat lefties to take advantage of the short porch hence more balls hit to right.
That also effects the chances for assists. Not to mention people don't run unless they think they can make it so maybe they didn't think he was up to the task,
I'll give you the fielding pct one although it doesn't reflect making the difficult catch. And finally, there's the eye test. Bad routes, half the time we collectively hold out breath when the ball is hit this way.
Thanks for the info though. That's probably why because stats don't lie.
SOTO doesn't look like a bad right fielder to me. Despite his weird routes. He's not Clemente or Ichiro, but he has a good arm. I never kept up with modern defence analytics, so what do I know. Thank you for the input thecontrarian. But I'm calling you theConnie from now on.
Soto is not a good fielder. If you watch him every game, the flubs and risks and bad judgement tell you that. But if you miss the ball, dive unsuccessfully to allow extra bases, or make a catchable ball look impossible (while you don't catch it)...it doesn't show up in the stats. Miss a catchable ball? Scored a hit, you did fine. Dive unsuccessfully at a ball you should have let bounce? Single becomes a double or triple, no error or anything, just a nice try.
Good arm, no question. But not a good outfielder. The stats won't show that. Better than Jasson and serviceable, but the weaknesses are pretty obvious. The stats aren't correctly measuring the total performance. I don't think they really can. But MLB has become so enamored of stats, it no longer accepts the idea that not everything is reducible to statistics. A lot of things are, but not everything.
I'd rather have Judge in right, bad fielding Martian in center (he'll learn to be adequate at least). Soto at dh/lf and wells dh as off day or Glassman when they're not.
Soto in lf, it's a large area and one in which Soto would get undressed. I haven't looked at the newer metrics yet, but the older stats really don't tell the story especially when it comes to outfielders. BTW, a few nights ago I was looking at Reggie's 1977 season. Good gawd, I guess that I didn't catch enough games down in Miami. I always wondered why Billy Martin hated being forced to play him in the field. The stats were pretty terrible, do you guys remember Reggie as a terrible fielder?
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I'm still wondering how the hell I missed yesterday's question . . . .
ReplyDeleteHis hitting and adorable demeanor blind everyone to his questionable routes to the ball?
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ReplyDeleteThe only other thing that could tell us that we are definitely in a parallel universe is the intern winning executive of the year
ReplyDeleteSo I am sure you all already know this, but for the record: Soto leads the AL in Defensive Games at RF (145), leads in putouts at RF (289; Santander a distant second at 262), tied for first with two other players in assists in RF (9), and tied for first place with Santander in fielding percentage for RF (.993). I believe those numbers qualify him as a GG finalist in RF.
ReplyDeletePlaying the most games in right field only means you didn't get injured.
DeleteThe number of putouts is greater because more games equals more putouts. Plus, in Yankee Stadium teams bat lefties to take advantage of the short porch hence more balls hit to right.
That also effects the chances for assists. Not to mention people don't run unless they think they can make it so maybe they didn't think he was up to the task,
I'll give you the fielding pct one although it doesn't reflect making the difficult catch. And finally, there's the eye test. Bad routes, half the time we collectively hold out breath when the ball is hit this way.
Thanks for the info though. That's probably why because stats don't lie.
WE ARE ALL FUCKED BEYOND BELIEF. THIS WHOLE WORLD IS WILD AT HEART AND WEIRD ON TOP.
ReplyDeleteThank you swami! An oasis in the post-apocalyptic desert.
DeleteWill Steve Cohen give Soto a few extra million for a gold glove?
ReplyDeleteSevy pitching tonight, by the way...
ReplyDeleteIn a black shirt. The Mets deserve to lose for that alone.
ReplyDeleteI can't disagree with you, Publius.
DeleteI want the Yankees to beat the mutts, not the drudgers.
DeleteSOTO doesn't look like a bad right fielder to me. Despite his weird routes. He's not Clemente or Ichiro, but he has a good arm. I never kept up with modern defence analytics, so what do I know. Thank you for the input thecontrarian. But I'm calling you theConnie from now on.
ReplyDeleteWILD AT HEART AND WEIRD ON TOP was the motto of my sorority!
ReplyDeleteWinnie, sometimes I worry about you.
Delete...And sometimes I'm absolutifucking sure.
....but I do agree on Soto's defense.
DeleteAnd could you give me the address of your sorority?
Was it cumma lotta times?
DeleteSoto is not a good fielder. If you watch him every game, the flubs and risks and bad judgement tell you that. But if you miss the ball, dive unsuccessfully to allow extra bases, or make a catchable ball look impossible (while you don't catch it)...it doesn't show up in the stats. Miss a catchable ball? Scored a hit, you did fine. Dive unsuccessfully at a ball you should have let bounce? Single becomes a double or triple, no error or anything, just a nice try.
ReplyDeleteGood arm, no question. But not a good outfielder. The stats won't show that. Better than Jasson and serviceable, but the weaknesses are pretty obvious. The stats aren't correctly measuring the total performance. I don't think they really can. But MLB has become so enamored of stats, it no longer accepts the idea that not everything is reducible to statistics. A lot of things are, but not everything.
I'd rather have Judge in right, bad fielding Martian in center (he'll learn to be adequate at least). Soto at dh/lf and wells dh as off day or Glassman when they're not.
DeleteThis is how the sport of Baseball works and how all the nerds that shape the game go about doing so.
ReplyDeleteSoto in lf, it's a large area and one in which Soto would get undressed. I haven't looked at the newer metrics yet, but the older stats really don't tell the story especially when it comes to outfielders. BTW, a few nights ago I was looking at Reggie's 1977 season. Good gawd, I guess that I didn't catch enough games down in Miami. I always wondered why Billy Martin hated being forced to play him in the field. The stats were pretty terrible, do you guys remember Reggie as a terrible fielder?
ReplyDeleteWell, I don't remember him as a GOOD fielder. That's about all.
DeleteHow is Judge NOT a Gold Glove Finalist?
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