I have to say, awful as it was for the Yanks to fire Joe, that was his worst moment of his managerial career—and maybe the worst moment of major-league umpiring in the history of the postseason.
Among other things, while struggling with the gnats, Joba hit Victor Martinez with a pitch. If he'd hit him in the head, done serious damage, would that have all been such a big laugh?
Yet another circumstance where if it had gone the other way, in the Yankees' favor, it would have been treated as a war crime.
I have to say, awful as it was for the Yanks to fire Joe, that was his worst moment of his managerial career—and maybe the worst moment of major-league umpiring in the history of the postseason.
Among other things, while struggling with the gnats, Joba hit Victor Martinez with a pitch. If he'd hit him in the head, done serious damage, would that have all been such a big laugh?
Yet another circumstance where if it had gone the other way, in the Yankees' favor, it would have been treated as a war crime.
Torre was great when his team was great. And he was mediocre when his team was mediocre. And he was somewhere in between when the talent was somewhere in between.
I always thought he was overrated, still do, and when the team was winning it all, he wanted recognition and more money, but when the team was faltering, he wanted none of the blame and was deeply offended by a looming pay cut.
Sorry, Hoss, that's just how I see it. Of course, I'll never forgive him for the midge game, either, but his effect on the won-loss record was neutral at best. He was no Earl Weaver or Dick Howser.
Sorry about the repetition repetition repetition...
JM, I hear ya about Torre. I thought he was often—though not always—a poor field manager. If the Yanks could have managed to have him possessed with the spirit of Casey Stengel come playoff time, I think they might have won another five rings.
Just two things:
—Having read the details of how he got fired, I think it was ridiculous. It was this shit about Cashman needing to run the team by the analytics—an approach the little weasel always abandons when he runs into trouble, and goes right back to millstone contracts.
—I give Torre huge credit for being an excellent clubhouse manager and, most of all, for being the ONLY manager who could ever stomach the Steinbrenners for that long, and form an effective barrier between them and the press.
When Torre came in, the organization was really on the verge of coming apart. George had done so much to destroy it, and he was about to do it again, in another fit of pique. Only Gene Michael and Torre, I think, prevented that from happening, and gave us some fantastic years.
For that, I'll always be grateful to him. But sure, Howser and Earl Weaver. I'd put Sparky Anderson in that pantheon, too.
I really want the world to know about this great man who brought back happiness into my life again after my husband left me and the kids 3 years ago for another women online when i contacted Dr Believe he cast a love spell for me within 48 hours my ex husband start calling me and begging for forgiveness for everything that have happened between us. I was so happy to have my family back together with love again here is the email of Dr Believe via believelovespelltemple@gmail.com a man with the great powers you can also call him or add him on Whats-app: +2348156148821 God bless you I am very grateful for your help in my marriage.
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Another sad, sad story.
ReplyDeleteI have to say, awful as it was for the Yanks to fire Joe, that was his worst moment of his managerial career—and maybe the worst moment of major-league umpiring in the history of the postseason.
Among other things, while struggling with the gnats, Joba hit Victor Martinez with a pitch. If he'd hit him in the head, done serious damage, would that have all been such a big laugh?
Yet another circumstance where if it had gone the other way, in the Yankees' favor, it would have been treated as a war crime.
Another sad, sad story.
ReplyDeleteI have to say, awful as it was for the Yanks to fire Joe, that was his worst moment of his managerial career—and maybe the worst moment of major-league umpiring in the history of the postseason.
Among other things, while struggling with the gnats, Joba hit Victor Martinez with a pitch. If he'd hit him in the head, done serious damage, would that have all been such a big laugh?
Yet another circumstance where if it had gone the other way, in the Yankees' favor, it would have been treated as a war crime.
I could not agree with you more completely.
ReplyDeleteI could not agree with you more completely.
Fuck you MLB.
FUCK YOU MLB.
Torre was great when his team was great. And he was mediocre when his team was mediocre. And he was somewhere in between when the talent was somewhere in between.
ReplyDeleteI always thought he was overrated, still do, and when the team was winning it all, he wanted recognition and more money, but when the team was faltering, he wanted none of the blame and was deeply offended by a looming pay cut.
Sorry, Hoss, that's just how I see it. Of course, I'll never forgive him for the midge game, either, but his effect on the won-loss record was neutral at best. He was no Earl Weaver or Dick Howser.
Sorry about the repetition repetition repetition...
ReplyDeleteJM, I hear ya about Torre. I thought he was often—though not always—a poor field manager. If the Yanks could have managed to have him possessed with the spirit of Casey Stengel come playoff time, I think they might have won another five rings.
Just two things:
—Having read the details of how he got fired, I think it was ridiculous. It was this shit about Cashman needing to run the team by the analytics—an approach the little weasel always abandons when he runs into trouble, and goes right back to millstone contracts.
—I give Torre huge credit for being an excellent clubhouse manager and, most of all, for being the ONLY manager who could ever stomach the Steinbrenners for that long, and form an effective barrier between them and the press.
When Torre came in, the organization was really on the verge of coming apart. George had done so much to destroy it, and he was about to do it again, in another fit of pique. Only Gene Michael and Torre, I think, prevented that from happening, and gave us some fantastic years.
For that, I'll always be grateful to him. But sure, Howser and Earl Weaver. I'd put Sparky Anderson in that pantheon, too.
ReplyDeleteI really want the world to know about this great man who brought back happiness into my life again after my husband left me and the kids 3 years ago for another women online when i contacted Dr Believe he cast a love spell for me within 48 hours my ex husband start calling me and begging for forgiveness for everything that have happened between us. I was so happy to have my family back together with love again here is the email of Dr Believe via believelovespelltemple@gmail.com a man with the great powers you can also call him or add him on Whats-app: +2348156148821
God bless you
I am very grateful for your help in my marriage.