Two nights ago, in a one-run game, Oswaldo Cabrera lined a ball into the right-center gap; the Royals CF dove for it, knocking the ball into right field. The Yanks had a runner on first, and he stopped at third. The threat fizzled. There aren't many MLB players who couldn't have scored from first on that double. No, wait, let me amend that: There is only one.
Later, that player hit a grounder that tied up the Royals 3B, who fumbled and fidgeted, pulled out his cell phone, texted his wife, ordered an Uber and wrote poetry in his journal, and then threw to first, getting the out. There aren't many MLB players who couldn't have beat out that grounder. Actually, there is one.
In both cases, with a game - or a season? - on the line, Giancarlo Stanton loped on the base paths, unable to push himself into fifth fourth third - second? -gear. He's been this way for three months. On June 22, Stanton - who had been hot, hitting .304 that month - went down with a hamstring tweak. He returned July 29 as a turtle. In August, he hit .222; in September, .194. One central aspect of his game could not be ignored.
The guy simply cannot run.
He is a bat, nothing more. (Much like Danny Tartabull was, at the end.) If he smacks a ball off the left field wall, unless it bounces crazily, it's a single. If he hits a grounder, unless the bases are empty, it's a DP. There is no compromise. He does not sprint. It's possible that he never, ever again, will.
Listen: I don't wanna criticize Stanton. It's easy to point to his contract and complain. Of course, he's not worth $32 million per season, but that's not his fault. The Marlins stupidly gave him a 13 year, $320 million deal, and when they realized their mistake, they searched for a patsy and - lo and behold - Brian Cashman returned the call. What was Stanton supposed to do? say, "O, no! my body is disintegrating, I'm not worth $32 million; let's rewrite the contract so my family receives less money." Nope. We can look at Stanton from many angles, but we cannot blame him for growing old. That's on the Yankees, who will be paying him through 2028.
But these days, a truly distressing event takes place whenever Stanton must run, which - sadly, occurs whenever he hits the ball. He cannot bust it. He just lopes.
And we know where this is heading. Of course, we do. It will happen against the Royals, or in the ALCS, or - gulp -in the world series. Stanton will be chugging along, faced with either tweaking his hammy or saving himself, and it will be a close call.
Saturday night, he chose the latter. The Yankees won, but not by much.
There may be one other factor here: The clubhouse. As far as I can see, Stanton is a likeable - (I hesitate to use "beloved," which is overworked) - and respected character in the Yank dugout. Would Boone, by benching Giancarlo, undermine the team's zeitgeist? Are the Yankees once again using salaries to dictate the lineup? (This on a night when Carlos Rodon will start Game Two?)
When the year is on the line, will Giancarlo bust it?
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Duque - Even more to your point... you have two guys who are strikeout prone. Both are capable of hitting long home runs. Both bat under .200. One beause he's at the begining of his career and one who is at the end. Neither can be trusted in the field.
The difference is that Jasson can run. He can hit doubles. He can steal bases if he gets on with a walk. He can score on a single.
So the question isn't as much why can't Stanton bust it (but you're right - why can't he) but why isn't the Martian the DH and just sit Stanton down?
Sure he can get hot but so can Jasson with much greater upside.
Torre would have sat Stanton.
I think "on the line," for Stanton, might mean game seven of a WS we won't reach in the first place, so, uh, yeah.
a day early, but haiku is all I have,
The tortoise and Mike
reptiles do not have hamstrings
guess who won the race?
I will be at the game tonight. I hope I don't have a stroke because of Boone.
As I've been saying, Stanton's legs are shot. This not only means he can't really run, but it also has affected his hitting--which is why his production dropped so hard after he returned from the hammy injury.
During the season, I could live with that. Mainly because he was still a threat that other teams couldn't ignore. Who knew when he might get hot and go on a tear? In fact, that's still the case. Even if his swing is now mostly based on arm strength alone, it's enough to knock the ball out (the home runs off the end of the bat seemingly a bit of a specialty). Though if an injury of some kind is hampering what he can do, he really shouldn't be playing, though the 32 million means Cashman wants to see him on the field unless he's dead or dying.
But in the postseason...yeah, I don't know. The thing Stanton does that Jasson can't is generate the fear factor. Stanton has a history, and opponents respect it, whether it's still applicable or not. Jasson is a kid without history. He just doesn't generate the same level of fear and respect.
That's an intangible, obviously. At this point, you have to wonder whether or not it matters. As Peter Gabriel put it in The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, "Groucho, with his movies trailing, stands alone, his punch lines failing." Sometimes past performance has nothing at all to do with current or future results.
If Boone doesn't get you, the hot dogs and Italian sausage will.
Stanton can't bust it. Derek knew what he was doing when he was in FLA.
Something that should be discussed...WTF happened in L.A. last night? Was the mouthing off between Flaherty and Machado over the top...so much that it caused fan violence? Was all of this alcohol fueled? I'm sure that MLB doesn't want to see this on a national stage. Us Yankees fans have been attached in the past, but we don't act like this. Minimally, I find this very troubling...
Do MLB rules prevent Stanton from becoming Hal's butler/personal assistant/valet for the next 4 years @ 32 million per?
It was really weird. Seems like the people in the (relatively) cheap seats had too much testosterone and probably alcohol. Profar and Tatis taunting or answering the crowd was inflammatory, too, so it wasn't only the crowd that acted like dicks.
Duque, you are absolutely correct and I appreciate being reminded that it's NOT Stanton's fault. I agree with you here and I would do the same thing. Although, I must say, when Brian offered me 10 million a year to be backup catcher, I did say, "No thanks, Mr Cashman, but I'm not fit enough. I'll just retire now and post dumb shit on the internet." But I digress. It's NOT Stanton's fault and he should not be blamed, shamed or even benched. Let's honor that zeitgeist. PERHAPS, though, we could just hang him upside down in a cage and let the stadium pigeons shit on him while he has to listen to the 140 decibel crap they blast out in the Stadium until he has decided he ought to *push it* just a little bit on the base paths? That's not too harsh, really, when you think about it. I mean, for 32 million....
Roofuss - where be your seats? We'll look for you whilst ONLY listening to the audio feed out here in the western part of dah, uh, uhm, you know, the country
32 Million is honestly chump change after taxes and agent and girlfriend fees - when you think about it, 13Bit. I would have to imagine that Can't*Run only pockets about 16-17 Million after the shakedown. so let's not be too harsh with the poor guy...
Haikus are always welcome
Today's Athletic explains why Stanton can't run:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5822798/2024/10/06/yankees-giancarlo-stanton-speed-alds/
"Giancarlo Stanton was the 284th fastest player in MLB this season among 288 players with at least 100 competitive sprints, according to Statcast. Stanton’s inability to find an extra gear on the basepaths cost the Yankees two runs in Game 1."
And as Jon Anderson said about punch lines: "They're so hard to find in my cosmic mind." Of course, I can't make that fit with the current subject matter--only that there seem to be a fair number of prog rock fans in these here parts.
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I just like Stanton for all the reasons stated by thecontrarian. I'm still not sure he should be in the lineup every day during the postseason because he can't run anymore. But I do hope he bashes a few to stop the Stanton bashing.
two words (for strategic use when applicable) PINCH RUNNER
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No one is blaming Giancarlo Stanton for his physical problems (Though "no whiff of steroids"? Hmm...).
But let's get real. Mantle played 144 games in his last two, non-DH seasons, leading the Yanks in games played each year—for NYY teams that were going nowhere and finished far back in the pack. And each of those years, which were dominated by pitching, he was in the AL Top Ten in OBP, Offensive WAR (1967), OPS, Adjusted OPS+, home runs (1967), walks, Adjusted Batting Runs, Adjusted Batting Wins, Offensive Win Percentage, fewest AB per HR, Base-Out Runs Added, Win Probability Added, Situational Wins Added, Base-Out Wins Added, Putouts (3rd, in 1968), Assists at 1B (4th, 1967-68), and DPs turned at 1st (3rd, 1968).
Bitty, far from being stupid, what you post on line is both hilarious and sage. Which is hard to do!
Id give him 5 innings as dh and pull him for someone who can run.... 2 chances to homer or drive in runs on singles....
Of course they are using salaries to determine the line-up! That's one of the reasons they are losers!!
Fuck Boone.
Rufus. Slab on Bacon onna Stick. It's the way to go!
Of that there can be no question.
I used to get erections on a regular basis. Not so much anymore without help from my local pharmacist and even with that they are few and far in between.
No one is the least bit interested in what Giancarlo has done in the past. I thought when he came back from his annual residence in the Ellsbury Infirmary he would be an influential bat behind Soto and Judge, but that wishful thinking evaporated pretty quickly. He is a was-been and useless name in the lineup. I would much prefer to see a younger, stiffer man take his place permanently.
4 hours until The Master.
Hey, I've been on the record before about Stanton. They are much, much better off without him on the roster. Can he help win a game here or there? Sure. But in the long run, the answer is clear as day. Gotta move him outta here.
Coach Red Blazer:
You want to talk about my record?
How the hell was I supposed to know she was thirteen? She looked seventeen at least!
I done my time. I paid my debt to society.
No, coach, you coaching record....
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