69 games played, 7 home runs, 45 RBI, 30 walks, 52 strikeouts, .260/.341/.423/.763.
67 games, 9 homers, 26 RBI, 22 walks, 77 strikeouts, .186/.260/.345/.605.
The first are the figures for Mickey Mantle, after he was sent down in his rookie year, following his game on July 13, 1951 with your New York Yankees.
The second set are those for Anthony Volpe, so far this season.
Hey, is it unfair to compare most anyone with The Mick?
Absolutely!
But the fact remains that, if Mick could survive it at 19, after running up what would practically be considered MVP numbers today...Anthony Volpe can take it, too.
And again, wishing Volpe nothing but the best. I hope he's a huge star (at second, after we get rid of you-know-who). But the numbers don't lie.
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The disturbing thing about Volpe is not so much that he's been in a terrible slump. It's that he should be able to fix this easily, but it hasn't happened. That to me indicates that he's another mechanical player who won't or can't make adjustments to the way they're pitching him.
It's also a big indictment of the coaching staff.
He's getting beat with the high fastball inside. I'm not a swing doctor, and I haven't watched Volpe when he was younger or before he came to the Yankees. And I don't know if he had that big swing before the Yankees drafted him. But I do know that the fastball is the best pitch in baseball. Meaning that everything works off the fastball. If you can't hit the fastball, you won't see much else.
I would move him off the plate some. He's standing right on top of the plate. He needs to ambush a few fastballs and get some hits. He's pull happy, so he needs to work on going the other way. I would spend a few batting practice sessions doing nothing but trying to hit to the opposite field. Some more contact and less swinging for the fences would really help. He's also swinging at off speed out of the zone, just like Stanton when he's going bad. Cure the late swings on the fastball and the swinging at the off speed out of the zone will cure itself.
When a hitter feels like he has to open up the hips and fly open in order to hit the fastball, that's trouble. The hips flying open actually ends up dragging the hands and the bat through the zone, and your bat slows down even more, and you get beat by the fastball every time. So the key is to stop trying to pull everything. You have to have the confidence that your hands are fast enough to get around on a fastball inside. They are fast enough. He has to get that good feeling back.
The fact that he's not able to make these simple adjustments is a very bad sign. He hasn't got much more time before he's going back down to the minors. Maybe the minor league coaches are better than the bozos they have up here. But if he gets going again down there, I'm saying that he'll come up here again in the future and major league pitchers will find another weakness to exploit. And he'll be unable to adjust and get sent down again. Hey, it happens. That's the difference between a good major leaguer and a career minor leaguer.
BTW Hoss, those numbers for the young "struggling" Mantle would be the second best hitter on this team, right behind Judge.
It ain't just Volpe. Three hits last night. Three hits!!!
We actually need what we used to call "banjo" hitters.
Guys that just made contact.
I know that all our memories are selective, but I used to expect a guy to make it home from 3rd with 1 out, now I am surprised when they do.
I think that there is such a collective frustration with anyone who played before ,say 2005, who watch MLB hitters flay away with all their might and just walk back to the dugout. It's like watching a Loony Tunes baseball game with Bugs pitching.
I know that pitchers are bigger and stronger, but for heaven's sake "serve" a few pitches where they are ain't standing instead of figuring out the next pose or dugout strut with paraphernalia. Buffoons!!
"It's also a big indictment of the coaching staff."
Exactly.
It's sad. It's unfortunate. And regrettably it appears to be a problem that remains unfixable.
Mor-on Dillon Lawson:
“We care about winning games,” Lawson said. “I really don’t give a shit where we rank in offensive stats as long as we’re scoring enough runs to win games."
Maybe if the door hits Lawson's arse hard enough his launch angle with be enough to provide the necessary exit velo to get him off this team.
On a happy note, with all these June off dates, we,
1)Have fewer games without Judge,
2) Have a longer time period between Stanton's injuries,
3)Don't have to watch them lose, and
4) Don't have to avoid Boonie's torturous press briefings.
Also, I miss the days when the press was antagonistic with the Yankees. Now they are syncopates. [Or something like that.]
Somebody, anybody, please write the truth!!
I've been a Peraza man from the start. Living out here near Moosic I've been able to make it down there a few times and I've seen him up close. He's a big guy (so's Florial, Chaparro is too), natural power, doesn't swing from the backs of his shoes. In the field he glides, smooth defense, big arm. He should be in New York.
I like Volpe but a rotation of Peraza, Volpe, the Say Olé Kid, and some combination of Jackie and Old Man LeMahieu would take a lot of pressure off the young guy. He's Cashhats shiny toy though, the distraction from all the deals the Yankees haven't made for an established shortstop the past two offseasons and he unfortunately ain't living up to the hype. Who could?
Anyway, finally got some rain here, settle the dust a bit.
Archie, the truth is right here on this blog.
Hammer loves to seize on a topic and Hammer it to death, deaf to contravening evidence. First it was Judge batting second. Now it's moving Volpe off the plate. A recent network telecast showed a strike-zone graphic of Volpe's hitting strengths and weaknesses. It was mostly weaknesses, but up and in and low and away were both equally dreadful. So moving him off the plate would take him from bad to worse in a vulnerable area. But people on this blog tend to be evidence-averse, preferring to indulge their vague impressions and intuitions. If Hammer wants to fancy himself a hitting genius, let him have his fun. But he should not confuse these ramblings with serious analysis.
A rotation at the most important position on the field. The genius ideas never end.
If you want to see John getting smacked…. Here it is…
https://youtu.be/kZWXQ6aLhRo
EBD, you ARE aware that when judging stats for minor leaguers that age v competition, stats in a given league, subset in a given home field are given more credence than merely looking at stats and drawing conclusions. And these days exit velocity, and barrel rates are very important. If it was so simple any idiot could run a farm system. And believe me, you'd be the GM.
And before we all grow too impatient, remember that management decided that Volpe, despite his lack of melanin, was going to learn on the job, and there was great rejoicing. 'At last, so the tongues wagged, the team will develop like the more successful clubs do, let them learn on the job. You know, like Tampa does it'. For God's sake, he hasn't played half a season!😱😱😱 If we had a time machine many of you would be screaming to trade Jeter for Felix Fermin.
Jeter was batting .280 at this point in 1996. Get a clue, ya fraudulent windbag.
Yes, rotation.
Because:
Jackie's a shell of his former self but he's not going anywhere.
LeMahieu is either old or hurt but he's not good anymore. He's also not going anywhere.
Volpe may or may not stink but he's Cashhat's golden boy and he's not going anywhere.
Torres is a sometimes good, sometimes abysmal hitter and a piss-poor fielder with his head in his ass half the time (speed? that's laughable). He's cheap though, and he maybe brings nothing better than a middling middle reliever in a trade so he's not going anywhere.
IKF is a decent back-up. Unfortunately we have no outfielders so he's been elected to go there.
That's it. The infield as constructed sucks. Sucks bad. If they promote Peraza, which I think they should, either someone gets jettisoned (unlikely), someone sits, or the well-compensated manager figures a way to make everyone happy. Or Peraza rots in Moosic because...reasons.
"when judging stats for minor leaguers that age v competition, stats in a given league, subset in a given home field are given more credence than merely looking at stats and drawing conclusions." This is made-up bullshit. Cite a study supporting any of this incoherent blather. You're a fraud. A fantasist with a bellyful of bile, a brain filled with noise and static, and no clue. You're just a wannabe Cashman groupie because you're an old fart with no rooted sense of identity. A deranged fabulist. The only evidence you can provide for your frantic concoctions is a textbook on psychopsthology.
@ Kevin, Yeah, stats are just a tool for evaluating guys, and they're all after the fact. There is an inference that what happened in the past will happen in the future, and that may or may not be correct. Stats are only as good as the validity of that inference.
A half season should give you a pretty decent idea about a player. That point is fast approaching. And these stats that Volpe is compiling are all major league stats. I don't have any problem with taking a chance and bringing a guy up too early, if they did bring him up too early. I'd rather bring a guy up too early than waste all of his best years in the minors. If Volpe isn't good enough, they should send him down. How much longer to wait? Maybe the All-Star break.
They never should have sent Peraza to the minors. I didn't get that at all. He should've started either at SS or 3B from the beginning of the year. The odd men out should've been Donaldson and Torres.
Speaking of Torres, another killer mistake defensively. He makes too many mistakes. With the bat, on the bases, on defense. Hitting a home run every once in a while doesn't make up for all these mistakes.
Hammer : The relevant stats are not after the fact; they are the fact. Your hunches are worthless. Your intuitions about Volpe's weak spots as a hitter can be checked by consulting strike zone graphics, something you have evidently never bothered to do.
As for Torres : WAR rankings of Yankee position players for 2023 (remember that this is a cumulative stat, so the numbers will rise in proportion to performance as the season progresses):
1. Judge: 2.5
2. Rizzo: 1.2
3. Torres 0.9
In 2022, Torres was in a virtual tie (with LeMahieu, a tenth of a point difference) for third WAR ranking on the team:
1. Judge: 11.5
2. Trevino: 3.7
3. LeMahieu: 2.9
4. Torres 2.8
So great idea--trade your third best player of this year and last, a 26-year-old who has speed and power. Genius idea, when you have baseball ciphers and repeat failures and mediocrities like IKF, Bauers, McKinney, Calhoun, etc., cluttering the roster. Sheer genius.
As Edwin Starr said “WAR, what is good for, absolutely nothing” if you have actually watched Torres play and think he is a keep, then you should have your eyes checked out, maybe the prescription needs to changed?
Mildred,
I will be attending a game in Moosic the week of August 24th. Would love to meet you at the game or buy you a drink somewhere close to the field.
Celerino Sanchez: Can you even explain WAR or how it is calculated? And why it is a tool used by GMs, no matter how often derided by people like you who have never even read a book on analytics? So you saw Torres make a couple of errors in key situations, and the subjective jolt of that overrides all his solid and documentable contributions as an everyday player. One need not rely only on WAR. Torres is third on the team on OPS+ as well, both this year and last. His defense OVERALL is solid. But if you just want to throw around impressions that are devoid of evidence and logic to justify joining the blog groupthink about Torres, that's your right. But it doesn't make you right, in the other sense of that word.
Celerino,
Like Johnny Nash, I can see clearly now.
That Gleyber Cano is nothing but trade fodder.
Mildred: Please name a championship team that had a rotation of at least three people at shortstop, the most important position on the diamond--not a lefty-righty platoon of two players, but a rotation of at least three--not because of injury, but because of choice. It doesn't happen. You need a regular specialist at that position with first-rate defensive skills--they aren't a dime a dozen, you know. Plus, if either Peraza or Volpe is to continue developting as a player, he will need regular reps, on the field and at bat. He's not goint to get those sitting on the bench 2/3 of the time in a rotation. Just because the GM has created a logjam at that position, the solution isn't to parcel out playing time. The solution is to decide who is your starting shortstop--based on EVIDENCE--and to stick with it. If it looks like you made the wrong decision--and that is becoming more apparent every day in the case of Volpe--you see if you have another guy who is as good or better and replace the dud with the new guy. Simple--that's how sane, competent organizations do it.
EBD, what is you point. If you want to play WAR then he’s tied with sultan of swat Jose Trevino. The guys can’t field or run the bases. He hits .260 and 25% of his HRs came against pre 2020 Baltimore. Other than that he a superstar. By the way are you related to Ca$hman? Because neither one of you know anything about baseball.
WAR takes into account the players entire value, including defense. Trevino was one of the best defensive catchers last year at a critical up-the-middle position. Teams often sacrifice offense at the catching position to make sure they have a first-rate pitch caller, pitch framer, and overall defender at that position. Hence defense is more strongly weighted for a catcher's WAR. You would know this if you would just read ONE book on the subject that you obviously know nothing about. WHat I know about baseball is EVIDENCE-based--what you know is what you pull out of your behind.
Torres has the third hightest OPS+ on the team, and he has speed and power. His defensive numbers are decent by all the metrics. Yet you judge him by one play that sticks in your craw. That means you know nothing about logic or clarity of thought. Read a book on the subject and get back to us when you have something to say that couldn't come from the average bleacher bum or caller to WFAN.
EBD doesn't understand the game, she can try to correlate stat A v stat B. Her next trick is to pour out a bunch of poorly constructed sentences and try to smear anyone who doesn't agree with her silliness. And of course, she has come out as a racist who uses racist "logic" to back her ideas up. So, yeah, a nutcase.
Hammer, I agree with you regarding Volpe. If he doesn't show marked improvement by the All Star game then he should go back to the Farm for re-education.
Kevin--You're a chronic flamer and BS artist. So let's call your bluff. Serious analysis is EVIDENCE-based. I provide evidence. You provide nothing but demented sexist/racist spittle and the compulsive objurgation of an obvious psychotic. And that's about as politely as I can put it. So let's put your asinine posturing to the test, tough guy:
1. You claim to have seen scouting reports that state that Florial has problems with pitch recognitions. So let's have a link or a reference to those reports so we can decide: is he telling the truth, or just making shit up to sound knowledgeable when he's really just a crank on the Internet?
2. Please provide the relevant numbers for each of the following specific areas of knowledge that you claim to have about Volpe's minor league hitting performance, which is clearly LOUSY at both the AA and AAA levels.
1. age v competition
2. stats in a given league
3. subset in a given home field
You claim these are widely used stats that contravene the clear overall AA and AAA numbers that show Volpe to be a lousy hitter at those levels. Those items SOUND impressive to someone who doesn't scrutinize them, but I know that they are total bullshit, word salad that you fling to impress people who are even dumber than you are. But here's your chance to prove me wrong! Lay out Volpe's "numbers" for your fabricated criteria, one through three. Let's have it, genius.
Should be a lively night around here. Ali-Frazier XII is underway.
And please analyze and grammatically diagram any of my sentences to demonstrate that any of them are "poorly constructed." You're just a mentally unhinged and unscrupulous smear artist--a petty Internet flame addict. You fling invective that you can't back up. So cite one poorly contructed sentence. EVIDENCE, asshole--let's have it: on this or your invented 1 through 3 minor league fabricated stat categories. Waiting . . . This should be good! (I bet we get more smears but no evidence or quote d examples or citations about anything--the usual technique of the bullshitter.) Waiting . . .
MJ -- This isn't Ali-Frazier. This is a responsible, coherent contributor who backs up his clear assertions with evidence and examples vs. a mentally ill fabulist who concocts incoherent babble in the intervals of flinging vulgar racist/sexist epithets. Clear enough?
Clear all along, EBD. I'm digging the fight. Keep punching. You'll show 'em.
Kevin's hilarious simulacrum of English:
Example 1: "EBD doesn't understand the game, she can try to correlate stat A v stat B."
This, of course, is a run-on sentence. Plus "correlate stat A v stat B" is meaningless word salad. Notice that he hurls his slimy accusations without ever citing an EXAMPLE--the time-honored technique of the smear artist and bullshitter.
Example 2: "Her next trick is to pour out a bunch of poorly constructed sentences and try to smear anyone who doesn't agree with her silliness." Examples? None, of course. Just more evidence-free smears. Of course, he couldn't spew the smears if he had to cite evidence, because the evidence would show them to be false.
Example 3: " And of course, she has come out as a racist who uses racist "logic" to back her ideas up." First of all, this psychopath uses the feminine pronoun as a derogatory epithet--so he has some sort of visceral contempt for women on a par with Norman Bates. Second, he doesn't know that a quotation within a quotation takes single, not double, quotation marks--hence an illiterate to boot. Finally, he doesn't cite a single racist comment I have ever made--just like McCarthy derogating his targets as Communists without any evidence.
I've tried to set a good example for Kevin by demonstrating the basic seventh-grade English composition technique of supporting one's assertions with examples and evidence--which the smear artist and bullshitter does not do--indeed, cannot do, because the examples would refute his smears.
All right, Norman . . . I mean, Kevin. Let's have the citations and specifics for your word-babble minor-league evaluation "stat" categories, 1 through 3. Put up or shut up, bullshitter.
1. age v competition
2. stats in a given league
3. subset in a given home field
Still waiting for *ANY* evidence of racism on this site.
Explosive Bowel Disorder (one of many of its gnomens) yaks about it, but never can prove it.
His mommy must be disappointed.
...and want him out of the basement.
Rufus, it's "HER".
The period goes inside the quotation mark at the end of a sentence in American English usage, you illiterate dolt.
All right, Norman . . . I mean, Kevin. Let's have the citations and specifics for your word-babble minor-league evaluation "stat" categories, 1 through 3. Put up or shut up, bullshitter.
1. age v competition
2. stats in a given league
3. subset in a given home field
EBD, I'm an idiot who retired at age 44, and don't view this forum as an English exam. YOU on the other hand needs to learn a modicum of grammar if you are to get out of JC, whenever I make an effort to give you citations you simply ignore and keep spouting. Furthermore, as I've pointed out on numerous occasions neither I or other people on this blog are obligated to cite anything to you. You DON'T really give a damn about baseball, or are a total dullard who can't grasp the game (admit it, you're only here to piss people off). Insofar as my statistical education regarding baseball, I was into SABR research twenty years before you were born.
ANOTHER ungrammatcal, run-on sentence (comma-splice variety) from the blog illiterate: "YOU on the other hand needs to learn a modicum of grammar if you are to get out of JC, whenever I make an effort to give you citations you simply ignore and keep spouting." Notice as well the clash of subject and verb: "YOU . . . needs." Savor that: you needs. Now this is really gutbucket, fearless idiocy. The reason I point this out is that it is YOU who accuse others of offenses against grammar without ever citing an example, while perpetrating new offenses yourself every time you deface this blog with one of your asinine comments.
Notice further woman-hating Norman's lame excuse for never posting a citation or reference. OF COURSE he doesn't--because everything he writes here is the invention of a psychotic. As an elementary gesture of intellectual honesty and rigor, I cite relevant data for every one of my assertions. Norman posts none, because he's a dumb, scummy, twisted bullshit artist--a fat, ripe pinata of stupidity and dishonesty.
All right, Norman . . . I mean, Kevin. Let's have the citations and specifics for your word-babble minor-league evaluation "stat" categories, 1 through 3. Put up or shut up, bullshitter. You don't want to embarrass yourself by dodging this challenge for the third time--right, Norman? You really NEEDS to get this done once and for all, Norman!
1. age v competition
2. stats in a given league
3. subset in a given home field
"I" accuse "others" regarding grammar?! You are right regarding "needs", I was distracted at the time. But I thought that you'd more easily comprehend the creole.
I don't need to give you citations, and I won't. However, if you ever got off of your lazy ass you'd find this information quite easily. You jess gots too~
When do you graduate Junior College, young lady? I'd like to get together with the gang and buy you an appropriate gift.
OK, Kevin, now this is serious. I frankly could not believe my eyes when I saw your your appalling mockery of African American dialect: "You jess gots too"--a clumsy attempt to cover for your grammatical ineptitude. You have compounded the sin by claiming it was an INTENTIONAL riff on black English--an atrocity on which you odiously double down with the mocking phrase I quote above. This is egregious racism of the kind that once thrived among the Ku Klux Klan and likes of Strom Thurmond, George Wallace and Lester Maddox. You can't bluff and bullshit your way out of this one. And in case you try to delete the post, as though it never happened, I am reproducing it below and taking a screen shot of it that I will send to duque. You ought to get you banned from this blog for life. Stang, duque--are you going to tolerate this?
KEVIN'S RACIST MOCKERY OF AFRICAN AMERICAN DIALECT
"I" accuse "others" regarding grammar?! You are right regarding "needs", I was distracted at the time. But I thought that you'd more easily comprehend the creole.
I don't need to give you citations, and I won't. However, if you ever got off of your lazy ass you'd find this information quite easily. You jess gots too~
June 12, 2023 at 10:41 PM
So StatBaby returns. He’s off his meds and posting his “beyond the spectrum,” ad hominem, humorless dreck like the psycho he always was. He can’t live without this blog, but he can’t seem to behave here. It’s been a long time, little stat bitch. We still hate you.
I think that you, Rufus--we know that Goat is you by your standard, limited spray of well-worn epithets--should be more concerned about the mockery of black dialect. Since you don't utter a word of disapproval, we can only assume that you are fine with it. By your silence you show your solidarity with and approval of this appalling racism. I wish I could say I was surprised. Duque and Mustang--perhaps Rufus, long one of the most disruptive presences on this blog and now a tacit cheerleader for crude racism--should be shown the door as well.
Thank god there’s a loss tomorrow
Sorry I meant a game
EBD, what in the hell are you talking about? Where did I claim anything about an intentional riff on Black English? If I did a word play on you to point out your relentless racist rants of late, your personal attacks on myself and others, where do you come off complaining? Or is race-baiting and racist attacks only cool when you do the attacking? Little sister you need to get a serious attitude adjustment. You Don't Have ANY RIGHT TO ATTACK WHITE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN BRAINWASHED INTO BEING A VICTIM! And you playing the "victim" here is deliciously ironic. So please take your Snowflake Shield and shove it.
Notice further woman-hating Norman's lame excuse for never posting a citation or reference. OF COURSE he doesn't--because everything he writes here is the invention of a psychotic. As an elementary gesture of intellectual honesty and rigor, I cite relevant data for every one of my assertions. Norman posts none, because he's a dumb, scummy, twisted bullshit artist--a fat, ripe pinata of stupidity and dishonesty.
This crazy attack on myself from EBD immediately preceded my "egregiously racist" attack on American Black creole. I stand by my snark, but I will apologize for allowing myself to engage with a Certifiable. Worse yet I allowed myself to get genuinely offended, i.e. PISSED. But I simply wouldn't be true to myself if I allowed racism to go unchallenged. I've stood up to it, at great risk to myself, against both Black and White over the course of my life. It was not my intention to offend anyone else, and it I did then you have my genuine apology. No such apology is offered to the "offended", she knows exactly what game she plays. Kevin
Now can we get back to having Yankee talk?
Kumbayah my Lord Kumbayah.
[P.S, where am I supposed to put the comma dear grammar masters ?]
On a happy note, all of our Rookie League teams won last night.
The two DSL teams are both 6-0.
The FCL team threw a shutout.
I hated grammar in school. I think the comma would follow "Lord" though I may be wrong. 😏
Maybe we should switch to following the rookie teams?
domnt get me wrong trump is an asshole too(and other things best left unsaid)
i prefaced this comment to say that putin is a ruthless autocrat who loves russia. biden is an asshole leading the world to ruin in 50s leningrad as a small boy he was befrended by the rotenberg family distant relatives of my wife biden is an asshole and so is zelensky.i may be an alter cocker who meant to make the afor mentioed remark but hopefully not an asshole just stuck i the 20th century technologically and plagued by senioritis and yankee faliures so yhis remark didnt get sent previously
Kevin -- You are deranged. You splatter this blog with ugly racist parodies of black English, in good old Klan style, and then, instead of apologizing and acknowledging your disgusting behavior, you attempt to cover your tracks with the old trick of accusing your accuser of racism. This is standard fare on Fox News, Hannity, and, when his was still alive, Rush Limbaugh. But of course, through all your shitstorm of verbiage about racism, you have never cited or quoted a single sentence or syllable from me that could be called racist, just as you never cite any evidence for your demented ravings about baseball.
But here's the difference. I CAN quote your brazen racism. And all your rope-a-dope can't hide it. Here it is, and it will follow you on this blog every time you post here:
I don't need to give you citations, and I won't. However, if you ever got off of your lazy ass you'd find this information quite easily. You jess gots too~
June 12, 2023 at 10:41 PM
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