Sunday, January 27, 2019

Mike Mussina wearing no logo is a huge dis to Baltimore

He's going into the Hall as an orphan, no logo on his cap. If I were an O's fan, I'd feel offended...

Wins
Baltimore 147
NY 123

ERA
Baltimore 3.53
NY 3.88

Strikeouts
Baltimore 1535
NY 1278

Complete Games
Baltimore 45
NY 12

Shutouts
Baltimore 15
NY 8

Not complainin'. Just sayin'.

14 comments:

Publius said...

AL pennants

NYY 2
Os 0

13bit said...

Exactly, Publius. He is actually doing the Orioles a favor by not wearing anything. He knows the deal.

Anonymous said...

TO BE HONEST...I AM NOT A BIG MUSSINA FAN.

GOOD PITCHER...NOT ELITE.

I KEEP REMEMBERING THAT PLAYOFF GAME WHEN HE GAVE THE LEAD UP, IMMEDIATELY, IN A TIGHT GAME....SEEMED LIKE A FEW TOO MANY OF THOSE MOMENTS WHILE HE WAS IN PINSTRIPES.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE HALL OF FAME NOW.....

THEY ARE LETTING "GOOD" IN, INSTEAD OF "ELITE". (HAROLD BAINES)?

IF THEY ARE GOING TO LET "GOOD" IN, I WANT BERNIE WILLIAMS IN. I WANT DON MATTINGLY IN. I WANT RON GUIDRY IN. I WANT THURMAN MUNSON IN.

Anonymous said...

SIMPLE EXAMPLES;

HAROLD BAINES- GOOD
EDGAR MARTINEZ- ELITE

TREVOR HOFFMAN- GOOD
MARIANO RIVERA- ELITE

ranger_lp said...

He had better numbers as an Oriole. I don't understand why the committee didn't decide to induct him as an Oriole.

The Roy Halladay is even more cringe worthy. Should have gone in as a Blue Jay. Nothing there to debate about.

Why are they leaving it up to players again? I thought the committee was deciding the team?

Anonymous said...

American League Championships - Yankees 2, Orioles 0

20 win seasons- Yankees 1, Orioles 0

Total salary - Yankees $109 million, Orioles $35 million

HoraceClarke66 said...

I completely agree, ALL-CAPS! All those guys you list are much, much more deserving of the Hall than Mussina.

He doesn't know what to put on his cap? Hmm...

—How about "A" for Arizona, for when in 2001 he came out in Game 1 of the World Series with our guys completely gassed from a tough playoff run, and all the emotions after 9/11 running wild...and immediately got bombed by the Diamondbacks?

—How about an "LA" for when he was given a big lead in the 2002 ALDS against the Angels, in Game 3, and soon walked off the mound claiming injury?

—How about a "B" for Boston in 2004, when he could not get through the 7th inning with an 8-0 lead in Game 1, a failure that forced the Yanks to get four outs from an already exhausted Mo, thus further wearing him out for the rest of that series? Or maybe Game 5 of that series, when he could not pitch more than 6 innings with a 4-2 lead, something that led to a 5-4 loss in 14, and further exhausted everybody?

—No, no, it should really be the "LA" for 2005, when the Yanks gave him a 2-0 lead in the decisive Game 5, and he could not get through 3 innings, leaving behind, 5-2.

—Or wait! Maybe a big "D" for Detroit, when he gave up a 3-1 lead in Stadium in Game 2 of the 2006 ALDS!

But I kid, kid. No, no, it really should be a big "NY." That is, the Mets'—and originally, the old Giants'—NY, for July 2, 2004.

That was the evening after the amazing, 13-inning game against Boston, when Derek Jeter went into the stands. The Yanks had been playing a lot of games back-to-back, and they were really banged up and tired.

Nonetheless, Jeter even went out and started that night, because it was against the Mets. So did all the other exhausted regulars.

And Mike Mussina went out on the mound and surrendered five runs in the first two innings, and seven through five. Just another run-of-the-mill, hey-I-don't-know-if-I'm-feelin'-it appearance for Mike Mussina, the man in whose glands adrenaline does not run.

He shoulda stayed in Baltimore.

13bit said...

All I care about is High Lord Cashman making it into the Hall. That's all that matters.

He has delivered us all of these championships for all of these years. He deserves it,.

HoraceClarke66 said...

Mike Mussina in—Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, and Andy Pettitte out.

Brian Cashman in—Gene Michael out.

Maybe this can be our project this summer, as the Yanks sink slowly into third place, and out of even Wild-Card Play-in contention: who SHOULD be in the Hall. Or, who should be in the Yankees Hall of Fame.

Publius said...

Hoss, we must have the sweet with the sour: game 3 2001 ALDS in Oakland, A's riding high up 2-0 in series after thumping Yanks in Stadium. Moose pitches 7 scoreless with only 1 run of support. Game 7 2003 ALCS. Clemens spits the bit against Sox and Moose comes on in long relief, silences Sox bats, allowing for the comeback.

HoraceClarke66 said...

Publius, Mussina did pitch well in that Oakland game—but was saved from giving up the tying run only by Jeter's "Miracle Flip." And, of course, Jeremy Giambi's failure to slide. Otherwise, he would have left that game in a 1-1 tie, with a runner on second or third.

I'll grant you the stalwart, 2003 relief effort—though I would be more impressed by it if Moose had not already lost two starts in that series. Albeit, games in which he did not receive much support, I will admit.

But the relief effort just illustrates the sort of choker Mussina was. He came into a game the Yanks seemed to be hopelessly trailing in, 4-0, and pitched great.

I'm grateful for it—but that was always the way. When he was the definite underdog, Mussina often pitched at his best. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember him regularly pitching very well against Pedro. But of course: he wasn't expected to win, there was no pressure...so he was great.

I will give him his props for the 2003 World Series in which, coming off that outstanding relief effort in the ALCS, he pitched a strong 6-1 win in Miami. I thought then that the had finally shaken off his demons, and I really believed that, if we could have got to a Game 7, he would have brought it home that year—much as A-Rod finally did it in 2009. And who knows? Maybe that would have finally liberated him.

Not that I would have bet money on it...

HoraceClarke66 said...

Also, I must add that I was quite happy with Mussina's oversized Adam's apple before he came to the Yankees.

I will also be thankful for that Game 3 in the 1996 ALCS when Moose visibly lost it over that dumb Todd Zeile "fake" on Bernie, and just grooved one to Cecil Fielder. That was classic Mussina.

Again—if only he had stayed in Baltimore.

Or better yet: say that we reverse the 2001 free-agent class. The Yanks sign Manny, and leave the Sox to sign Moose.

I swear, we would have won the next 6-9 world championships. Oh, be still, my greedy Yankee heart!

TheWinWarblist said...

Why can't he have that bird perched on the interlocking NY?

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