Tuesday, September 6, 2022

Two in a row, four up in the loss column, and last year's Minnesota deal is still playing out

For years, Minnesota always came through for us. 

When we needed a postseason punch-out, they'd welcome us with Brad Radke, JC Romero and/or LaTroy Hawkins - primed to blow any lead. Their annual October visits brought comfort and good tidings. They gave us Knobby. They graciously took Phil Hughes and Michael Pineda off our hands. And last winter, they accepted our problematic man-child, Gary Sanchez. Yes, they took the Kraken, for which we should always- 

Wait. Check that. I'm not sure we should celebrate last winter's trade. The Twins took Gary and Gio Urshela, and we got - um, well - we're still learning. Errors or not, I do like Isiah Kiner-Falefa. And the injury-magnet catcher, Ben Rortvedt - who knows? But one player dominated that deal, and not in the way we hoped.

The Twins sent us Joshua Adam Donaldson - aka "the Bringer of Rain" (seriously, I looked it up) - an oft-injured former MVP who hit .247 with 26 HRs last year. He was supposed to be a savvied vet, a clubhouse sparkplug, a player-coach, the guy who hates to lose - you know, the all-around, Type A, feces-throwing, head-banging, king-of-the-mosh-pit motherfucker. And to some extent, he's been as advertised. But not always in a good way.

Earlier this year, his heckling of Chicago's Tim Hamilton - calling him "Jackie," after Jackie Robinson - was borderline racist. Careers have been canceled for less. He was lucky to escape. Sunday, in Tampa, he cleared the benches after a knockdown pitch - then later exchanged insults with a pitcher who had just fanned him on three pitches. (This, after he blew a game with back-to-back errors. Ugly. ) 

But yesterday's first inning against the Twins must be noted. With Aaron Judge on second - (thank you again, sir) - Donaldson belted one off the left field wall. Trouble is, he jogged out of home plate, admiring his greatness, and then was easily thrown out at second, attempting a comical non-slide. Judge scored, but the inning ended, another opportunity squandered. You can argue that the Yankees probably would have stranded him, that's what they do, but a bloop single could have made it 2-0, and this team needs every run it can get.

Jogging out hits is what a firecracker bench-presence is supposed to do. In the days of Jeter and O'Neill, a slacker would hear about. I'm not sure Aaron Boone even notices; we sit in a collapse of historical consequences, and our manager routinely offers excuses for players who mess up.

But here's the kicker: The Yankees will pay Donaldson $21 million next year; then, in 2024, they'll offer him $6 million in movie-money - just to buy a houseboat and go sailing. He will then serve as Hal Steinbrenner's billboard excuse for avoiding future free agents: The Yankees will have just squandered $21 million on a .220 hitter - why throw away more gold?

Many many years ago, under Hal's dad, then-front office intern Brian Cashman watched the Yankees constantly wheel in obese, over-the-hill sluggers, as if paying a guy a lot of money ensured his performance. For a long time, Cashman seemed bent on ending that practice, and building the franchise from the ground up. Fortunately, he had Gene Michael and Bob Watson in his corner. 

But over the last few years, Cashman has regularly punted on youth, trading prospects for whatever big names come available. And then, in autumn, the younger teams prevail. 

Minnesota is battling for the lead in the AL Central. Yesterday, we had their number. But come October, we better watch out. The winds have changed, and the Twins won last winter's big deal not because of Gary or Gio, but because of who they jettisoned. And he's jogging. 

50 comments:

Celerino Sanchez said...

Watson & Michael had nothing to do with Cashman. Cashman was still buying coffees for everyone while other 2 built the dynasty. HOF went back to the 80s with his “style” of management and getting the same results

JM said...

Everyone should read this:

https://theathletic.com/3566787/2022/09/05/yankees-fallout-cashman-boone-steinbrenner/

AboveAverage said...

In Oakland, Donaldson got off the 2nd team bus of late arrivals with a smirky, tight lipped grin, carrying a baseball bat which he was repeatedly smacking into his open palm. He looked like he was pretending/imagining himself to be an unhinged goon brought in to beat information out of someone being held prisoner in the visitor’s clubhouse.

Contrasting this look with the other well dressed late arrivals, you just couldn’t help but to think that Mr Donaldson is missing some important hardware upstairs.

Doug K. said...

JM -

Paywall. Can you summarize?

JM said...

"The mere prospect of the Yankees blowing a 15 1/2-game lead in the AL East raises any number of disturbing questions. Much more than the ritual sacrifice of hitting coaches or even manager Aaron Boone is coming into focus. The entire direction of the organization is at stake.

"If this season ends poorly — and after the team’s 61-23 start, a sizable percentage of Yankees fans would define “poorly” as anything short of a trip to the World Series — then owner Hal Steinbrenner will need to ask a question he almost certainly does not even want to consider:

"After a quarter-century under Brian Cashman, is it time to find a new general manager?"

Rosenthal (who I dislike intensely) then goes on to note the lousy and successful moves by Cashman, but with a decided tilt toward the failures. Hicks, the Monty trade, the shedding of young pitchers...the gamut. Plus the decision to hire Boone, the no-experience manager. All the shit we complain about here.

He also spends a good amount of ink on the Yankees financially-driven moves, the signing of Odor among them. And he questions why a team with New York Yankees resources doesn't spend commensurate with said resources.

All the shit we complain about. Right there for everyone to consider. It's the first time I've ever seen that in a major outlet.

AboveAverage said...

And JM - the comment section is also fun reading

Mildred Lopez said...


Stark has an interview with Joe Maddon in The Athletic today. Maddon talks about the analytics guys having taken over coaching of the players. Made me feel even worse forBoone.

Doug K. said...

JM -

Thanks. Plus, the Athletic is a well respected outlet.

Maybe we are being "softened" up for Brain's demise. Because we (fans) need to be manipulated and calmed down if Hal is going to get rid up Brain our beloved HOF GM. (what's the sarcasm symbol? Is it /s?)

Well s/!

I have a question. If you subscribe to The Athletic does that make you an athletic supporter?

Just askin'

ranger_lp said...

@JM...it is certainly an indictment on the whole Yankees system. So here's the question...let's say they jettison Ca$hman...who replaces him? I have no idea...

Moving forward, the Yanks aren't whole until the whole team gets younger. There in-lies the problem with Judge...he's 30 years old and will be 31 next April...how many more years like this one does he have left? This is why the Yanks will not spend $400 million on him. The analytics are only good when the player is healthy. There's no more steroids to keep older players upright to play so we're seeing breakdowns to half of our roster. That's the real issue...

AboveAverage said...

Then there’s this piece in the wsj:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-yankees-slugger-aaron-judge-pursues-bid-for-home-run-milestone-11662217200

13bit said...

I pay the fucking NY Times - which has turned into a shell of its former Old Gray Lady self - every month for access. Want recipes? more money. Want puzzles? More money. Now the Athletic? I have had enough. I don't like their business model. I will continue to pay for basic access and, if I ever move out of this shithole city that I used to love, maybe I'll get the paper edition sent to me by donkey mail, just for the hell of it.

So, much as I'd like to read that piece, I must suffer without it. I don't have to suffer in silence, though, as you all know too well.

My sense of smell is still around 10 percent, if that. Covid is not the flu. Boone is not Casey or Billy. Cash is not Stick and Hal is not George.

I love you all.

And yes, that makes you an athletic supporter. Good one.

HoraceClarke66 said...

Pretty funny, Doug!

And it's true, ranger, there are/were plenty of rational arguments not to re-sign Judge to a big, long, likely injury-riddled contract.

But they only made sense if you came up with a plan to trade/replace him...LAST YEAR!

This is yet another maddening aspect of the Cashman. Guys either walk for nothing or get handed the keys to the vault. There were good reasons not to give DJ that big deal, likable as he is. And the trade/replacement plan?

The Yanks could have done a deep-dive into Judge's projected future, sadly decided it made more sense not to continue with him, then worked out a deal for a whopping package of players AND schemed out a plan for acquiring, say, Juan Soto...LAST YEAR.

Now, it's too late to do any of that. Judge will be a free agent and the Yanks don't have any outfielders, period—much less of his caliber. They HAVE to re-sign him...or basically admit they are rebuilding from scratch.

But if they're rebuilding from scratch...THEN WHY DIDN'T THEY GET SOMETHING FOR JUDGE???

Maddening.


HoraceClarke66 said...

And...COULD NOT AGREE MORE, BITTY!

The idea of a newspaper is this: you get the world, in your hands, every morning. Okay, maybe it rubs off on your hands. BUT THERE IT IS. You get it all: news, arts, crossword, recipes, and SPORTS. And you can take it on the fucking subway, and at the end of the day, wrap fish in it.

I had to cancel my Times homes delivery a couple years ago because—despite the fact that I have given their people about 10 keys to my building, and we have an elevator—the self-proclaimed greatest paper in the world could not deliver an edition to my doorstep. The delivery service insisted on leaving it in the lobby, where it would constantly get thrown out or stolen.

But even before that, their daily sports page had devolved into unwitting self-satire. But not without a purpose, as you note, Bitty: now, those of us who follow "traditional" sports are supposed to shell out more for another "publication." We are supposed to go hunt all around the web and shell out more money for more things to read.

No. Run a newspaper, or get out of the business.

Hope the smelling improves soon, Bitty.

JM said...

We all know how the Yankees "get younger." They trade young guys for older guys, and bring up rookies when they basically have no choice. Then they trade them.

Bit, your NYT sub should allow you to access The Athletic. I'm not paying anything extra.

The Journal article is a no-effort piece that any of us could have written off the top of our heads, minus the interview quotes. Which, from the MLB "records" guy, are complete bullshit. Raw numbers...ya gotta be kidding me. "If we just treat the steroid/PED era as business as usual, all the numbers stand" is basically what he's saying. Clown. Tool.

JM said...

And yeah, the Times really has fallen below its old standards. It can be painful. The Wash Post is better. Even the LA Times is OK.

ZacharyA said...

Last 30 Games

Aaron Judge
.310/.469/.690 (1.159 OPS)

Rest of Yankee Lineup
.201/.265/.302 (.566 OPS)

Last 10 Games

Aaron Judge
.375/.524/1.000 (1.524 OPS)

Rest of Yankee Lineup
.147/.219/.227 (.446 OPS)

ZacharyA said...

Imagine this team next year without Judge.

JM said...

One-man teams don't win titles. Period.

Doug K. said...

ZachA,

Yeah, but can he pitch?

JM said...

Doug, only the Great Ohtani is capable of that incredible, massive, historic feat.

JM said...

But he's not capable of playing the field. Ahem.

AboveAverage said...

For what its worth - the reason why I mentioned the Donaldson sighting is because watching him play over the past few weeks, especially last couple of days (not busting it outta the box, finding his inner smirk after being cut down at second, the errors, benching clearing pitch, etc) is because the guy is just everything we think he is and more.

My friend, who was with me at the game in Oakland asked after he Norman Bates past us off the bus, "WHO is THAT with the bat?" I said, "Donaldson". He said, "what a freak show".

This is shaping up to be one of the weirdest baseball Septembers in the Bronx in a long time. I'm conflicted between looking forward to it and dreading it.

DOUG - great athletic supporter comment.

BIT - given how the Yankees play has stunk up the joint - perhaps not being able to smell for another 5 weeks or so is a blessing in disguise.



JM said...

Donaldson seems to be a vile person, an asshole, and he can't play anymore. We were taken by the Minnesota Twins. Think about that, HOF Cashman.

JM said...

Cashman reminds me of stock market commentators who say, "Nobody could have seen this was going to happen."

Bullshit in both cases.

The Archangel said...

Yesterday I broke my vow to not watch the Yankees, but I did it for a good reason.
My baseball playing grandson was over and he wanted to watch. He got his love for the Yanks from his dad and is now a 4th generation Yankee boy.
His father would have wanted him to love baseball, so I watched with him.

However, I was able to educate him.
When Donkeyson got thrown out for admiring his fly ball, I was able to tell him to RUN until you know the play is over.
Then to compound things, I noticed that that respected mentor Momar, who was about 0 for 30 something, posed as he watched his HR scrape the 3rd row of the Short Porch. Another object lesson for the boy. And this d-bag is supposedly around to help young Spanish kids to adapt to the majors.
What's next, Knobloch will teach Vople how to throw to 1st?
I wish Billy Martin was alive for the ten seconds to would take to bench and then slam those two woodchucks.

JM said...

Martin was a jerk. But I regret not getting Buck when he was available, and more with each passing day.

JM said...

Arch, at least the Yanks can give your grandson some negative models and lessons. That's about all they have these days, minus Judge and a few guys who can't stay off the IL.

The Archangel said...

JM, I figure that will give him an advantage over the other players that are flipping their bats in LL..
Luckily, his two coaches both played D1 ball and they really teach the game well. They were both guys who scrapped for every AB and inning.
We are lucky yo have them.

JM said...

Yes, you are. The kids are flipping bats in LL? That's incredibly depressing.

Though, to be honest, I played one game of summer ball with whatever league has late teen teams. I was out of my depth and quite after that one game, but managed to give the ump the evil eye after two pitches were called strikes--pitches I couldn't actually see because I'd never faced anybody that fast. A high-school teammate called out that I can't argue strikes. Next pitch was inside, and I did hit it, but grounded to second.

On top of that, I was put in right field for the last inning. My heart jumped out of my chest when a fly ball got hit my way, but I caught it, easy. Jogging in, I heard other guys say, "Did he catch that one-handed?" in amazement.

One game, but a little showboating nonetheless.

JM said...

Should've been "quit after that one game."

JM said...

And I went to HS with the teammate. I didn't play in HS.

BTR999 said...

Loathe Donaldson. WTF were they thinking? I’d had enough of Sanchez, but we could’ve disposed of him more cleanly than we did.
Perhaps it’s indicative of Donaldson’s power decline that he thought that was a homer. A few years ago maybe that ball would’ve been over the fence.

JM said...

If only Donaldson would go over the fence and leave.

BTR999 said...

My HS coach hated me, because I had really long hair. He said that’s why I was such a lousy pitcher, because I couldn’t see where the ball was going. What a keen baseball mind! He also said I was a no good, pot smoking hippie SOB. OK, so he was right about that…

JM said...

LOL!! You crazy kids and your long hair.

Doug K. said...

Bornto

But your photo is so clean cut.

AboveAverage said...

Loved the clip of Sanchez nearly getting decapitated walking past Celestino swinging full speed in the on deck circle.

Missed his cabbage by inches.

Celestino's expression immediately afterwards was complicated montage of a variety of emotions.

And of course - if Sanchez had been Gallagher'd - Cashman would have reacquired him in the upcoming offseason.

The Hammer of God said...

I had no problem with Donald Duck getting angry at the Tampon pitcher who threw at his head. It was definitely a purpose pitch, maybe not intentionally thrown at the head, but thrown without any care whether it killed him or not. Because Judge had hit a homer on an inside fastball in the 1st inning, and the Tampon pitcher had made up his mind not to let that happen with Donald Duck.

Anyway, the Tampons have had a long history of throwing at Yankee hitters. So a message needed to be sent. Plus, we ended up winning the game. So all's good. Anything it takes to get this dreadful team out of its funk and start a winning streak.

HoraceClarke66 said...

Amazing stats, Zach. I wonder if any MVP has ever played on a team with a wider differential.

Thank goodness Donaldson is going on paternity leave soon. Really, he should stay until the kid is ready for college.

And no, HOF Cashman never, ever considers the psychological make-up of ANY player before acquiring him. Haven't you noticed? He just reads the most basic stats sheets. Badly.

The Hammer of God said...

@13bit, Hoss Yeah, the Times has been poorly run (almost as bad as the Yankees), been shedding readers like trees shedding leaves in the fall, with poorly written, poorly researched articles. With that kind of lousy job, they want to be paid for internet access? Stupid. At the very least, they should allow free internet access for the international/politics section. Make money off ads, like everyone else.

And in my opinion, they're too bloated. Too many employees doing crappy jobs. Cut down to lean and mean, do the best possible job for a few important sections, and do free internet access, that's what I would do.

The Hammer of God said...

@AboveAverage, a few weeks ago, they had Donaldson on the pre-game show interview on WFAN with Susan Waldman. This was after his monthly good game, the one at Oakland. And, damned if he wasn't pretending to be some kind of hitting guru. I wish I had recorded his interview. Because he threw up such a shitload of hogwash that I don't remember a single thing he said. Every time Waldman asked him a question, the guy went on non-stop for at least a minute, talking hitting mechanics gibberish at a 110mph. I have never heard such an interview in my 40+ years as a Yankee fan. I got the feeling that Waldman was also aghast at his answers.

I remember thinking: hitting is not that complicated, this guy is nuts! He obviously thinks he is the greatest hitter in the world. He's hitting .220, but he must think he'll make up for it with a torrid September. And maybe he thinks that it's all bad luck. God help us!

The Hammer of God said...

I have to think that there was more to the Donaldson trade than just a player swap. Has it occurred to anyone that perhaps Cashman wanted to take on salary to replace the salary that left in the form of Sanchez and Gio? If they wanted to do it, they could've just canned Sanchez. They didn't need to trade him. So was this also a finance move? The more I think of it, the more I'm inclined to say that it was.

The Hammer of God said...

@Hoss, Completely agree about Judge's contract. But that's typical Yankee management post 2009. Long term planning is a dirty word for this franchise. Everything has to be done when the shit hits the fan. Bad contracts have to be maintained until they expire. Pending free agents have to be allowed to leave, with nothing in return. No trades are possible, unless we take on even more salary than we give up (Sanchez/Gio for Donaldson).

If they were smart, they would've signed up Judge before this season started. They would've paid a bit more, but it would've been nothing compared to now. Or they could've traded him before the season started, or even last year, and got a boatload of great young talent. But nothing ever happens here, until the place is on fire. It's clearly got something to do with HAL's finances. Simple baseball stupidity does not explain all of this shit show. It's simple baseball stupidity + financial stupidity + risk management (status quo, tax avoidance, payroll control) = management, Yankee style.

The Hammer of God said...

@Mildred Lopez, "Maddon talks about the analytics guys having taken over coaching of the players."

I think he means the analytics guys convincing the coaching staff that it's all about exit velocity. I keep hearing on WFAN that the Yankees think it's all about exit velo.

Hitting is NOT exit velocity. In the same way that pitching is NOT velocity. In the same way that boxing is NOT all hand speed or punching power.

Bat control is more important. So is strike zone awareness. Pitch recognition. Strategy. Situational hitting. All of these are more important than exit velo.

If you are going to swing at pitches off the plate, it doesn't matter if your exit velo on batted balls is 110 mph. You're going to swing and miss.

If they're all standing on one side of the infield, it behooves you to hit the ball where they ain't. That's bat control.

If there are two strikes, and the pitcher throws a nasty pitch that is close enough to be called a strike, you have to be able to swing late and get a piece of it to foul it off. That's bat control.

In the right count, you zone in and look for your pitch. If you get it, then you hit it hard. That's pitch recognition.

If there is a guy on 2nd, and nobody out, you do your best to move him to 3rd, either by hitting a slow ground ball or long fly ball. That's situational hitting and bat control.

If the only thing you do is "exit velocity", then you have a team like the Yankees. Masters of beating up lousy pitching, leaders of runs scored for the season. But unable to beat teams like the Tampons. Getting shut down by soft throwing, speed changing Ryan Yarbrough (the Yarlboro Man, I call him).

BTR999 said...

I need to dig up and old photo and change my avatar.

HoraceClarke66 said...

VERY well put, Hammer!

And yes, Donaldson is a catastrophe. I think you have the Yankees nailed—and I think the key words here are, "status quo." You could also used, "steady state."

Steady State HAL wants to contend every year, without actually winning—or only winning every once in a great while. That's the way he's figured out to keep revenues up and not annoy his fellow cartel owners. That's the only reason why I can see that he keeps Cashman around.

Daveyhead said...

I see a LOT of Yankees admiring their “home runs” and then finding out too late, “shit, I gotta run!” I blame Boone for not shutting that down.

Doug K. said...

daveyhead

Yes! Boone should have zero tolerance.

The Hammer of God said...

Aaron Boone is a baboon pretending to be a baseball manager. When he puts on his astronaut suit, calculating exit velocity and launch angles, he is a baboon pretending to be an rocket scientist. But he's just a dumb baboon, pressing blinking buttons on the rocket ship's control console. Which he has been taught to do by the evil weasel.

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