Before we start beefing about whether Robin Yount or A-Rod have gotten screwed for the all-time IT IS HIGH opponent team, consider this:
Cal Ripken Jr. was a 19-year all-star, an eight-time Silver Slugger, a two-time MVP, a two-time Gold Glover and a first-time member to Cooperstown with 98.5 percent of the vote. (Who spurned him? Probably the same asshole who dissed Jeter. Somewhere among the Gammonites, there is a writer - or two - who got their rocks off by leaving Ripken and Jeter off their ballots.)
Oh, there's also the thing about consecutive games. I know, he beat Lou Gehrig, and we must always instinctively hate him, but hell, Ripken was pretty good.
Here are the totals of 241 votes cast:
Cal Ripken (69 votes): 29%
Robin Yount (48): 20
Alex Rodriguez (40): 17%
Alan Trammell (31): 13%
Nomar Garciaparra (24): 10%
Dick Groat (14): 17%
Rick Burleson (12): 5%
Luis Aparicio (3): 1%
He shoulda been a Yankee, by the way. Baltimore selected him in the second round of the 1978 draft - a year when the Yankees had three first-round picks: Rex Hudler, Matt Winters and Bryan Ryder.
I just re-read the above paragraph and puked. (Note: In the second round, they drafted four clicks after Baltimore and selected - drum roll - Steve Balboni.)
Okay, enough self-torture. But if the Yankees had drafted Ripken, imagine the difference in the eighties and nineties. Ripken would have played SS up until the arrival of Jeter, making that position the modern face of the franchise.
Rex Hudler, Matt Winters and Bryan Ryder...
That leaves our all-time opponent team as
1B Eddie Murray
2B Rod Carew
SS Cal Ripken
Not bad. Congratulations, Iron Man.
Wednesday, April 29, 2020
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Sorry, but I will not ever recognize Ripken's record of consecutive games because unlike Lou Gehrig, the Orioles on many occasions sent him up to pinch hit in the ninth inning even in a blowout or defensively for the last out in the game even when he was obviously hurt.Lou never did that and never would. It happened during the times below:
"Ripken severely twisted his right knee during a benches-clearing brawl with the Seattle Mariners on June 6, 1993. Ripken was sore the next day, but still played. Had he sat that game out, his streak would have ended at 1,790 games. Ankle injuries in 1985 and 1992 nearly kept Ripken out of the lineup; the Orioles went as far as to recall Manny Alexander in 1992 as insurance in the event Ripken had to sit out."
Shame on both Cal and the Orioles organization!
I'm with Carl. I never really liked Ripken, good as he was, and the whole consecutive games "record" he set is total bullshit next to Gehrig's. Records set due to loopholes and gaming the system aren't my idea of records.
Now, Gehrig--THAT was a record.
I CAN LIVE WITH RIPKEN.
HE DIDN'T REALLY MURDER US BUT NO ONE REALLY DID IN THE SS BUNCH (LIKE HOSS SAYS)...
THE 3RD BASE CATEGORY IS GOING TO BE A WAR.
LETS GET TO IT.
Checking out even old-timey guys such as Luke Appling and Johnny Pesky...they were actually a little below their best against the Yanks, too.
With all due respect to ALL-CAPS, I don't see how anyone beats out Brett at third, but I'm willing to listen.
Orioles fans I know hated Ripken because they felt he "hurt the team" by not sitting more, or moving to third base earlier.
I tell them stuff like, "Dude, you haven't had a great pitcher since Jim Palmer retired, and you think Cal Ripken, Jr., is the problem???"
Make you wonder about just how insane we must be...
The decision to pass over Cal, Jr., probably comes from The Mad King chasing Gabe Paul back to Cleveland before the 1978 season.
The relative success of the team under the Steinbrenners nicely covers up exactly how unbeatable it could have been under some rational human being willing to trust the great baseball people once eager to work for them.
The trouble is everyone compares them to CBS, which owned the Yankees at the one time when making much immediate improvement in a team was almost impossible.
They should be comparing the to the Ruppert-Barrow or George Weiss eras, which were hugely more successful than the Steinbrenner years.
I was at Cal Ripken's last game in Yankee Stadium. It was supposed to be his last game, PERIOD, but 9/11 happened and mucked up the end of the season.
The Yankees gave him a nice ceremony and he gave a very gracious speech honoring all the Yankees he'd played against. He talked about each one and said a few words about each, Jeter, Pettite, etc.. When he got to Mariano Rivera, however, he paused and then said in a loud voice, "GAME OVER." It was great and it was clear the Yankees players appreciated it.
Yes, he made some mistakes, but he nailed that moment.
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