It is high, it is far, it is... caught!: Joe Girardi Revenge Thread of Dread

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Sunday, June 13, 2021

Joe Girardi Revenge Thread of Dread

Posted by el duque at 12:52 PM

38 comments:

HoraceClarke66 said...: Of course Judge has back spasms. He had to slide yesterday.

Of course the back-up for the injured Judge is...Rougned Odor.

I remember the years when the fill-in would be Lou Piniella. Or Roy White. Or Tim Raines. Or Chili Davis. Or, hell, Glenallen Hill.

Rougned Odor. Yeah, that Cashman depth!; June 13, 2021 at 1:15 PM
ranger_lp said...: Shit storm all over again...; June 13, 2021 at 1:52 PM
JM said...: Screw this team. We have better things to do.; June 13, 2021 at 2:02 PM
Artificial Lemon Flavoring said...: Maybe he Yankees traveling staff can secretly swap out Joe G for BaBoone before leaving Philadelphia. Not sure how they'd achieve this sleight of hand but I for one would support the "by any means necessary" approach.; June 13, 2021 at 2:38 PM
Joe Formerlyof Brooklyn said...: Just tuned in. Now, I'm tuning out. "They suck" doesn't seem like it covers enuf ground.

But it will do for now . . .; June 13, 2021 at 3:06 PM
HoraceClarke66 said...: So unless something drastic changes today, the Yanks' Twin Towers—their two top sluggers, Aaron Judge and Giancarlo "And I'm Tellin' You I'm Not Goin'" Stanton—will have given us 1 game and 1 at-bat in this two-game series, going a combined 1-6 with 3 Ks.

You just cannot build a top team when your two best players need to sit out by June.; June 13, 2021 at 3:06 PM
DickAllen said...: MLB calls this the "Free Game of the Day."

Ironic considering how the Yankees keep giving them away too.; June 13, 2021 at 3:14 PM
HoraceClarke66 said...: What spirit, what skill, what grim determination has sparked their entire effort today!

Faith, my constitution can bear it no longer! I must away. To a nap!

(Exeunt all, chased by catcalls.); June 13, 2021 at 4:01 PM
Publius said...: If this doesn't get Cash fired, nothing will.; June 13, 2021 at 4:02 PM
Publius said...: Best team in the organization is blowing out Buffalo 8-0 in the 9th. A AAA genius, our Brian. Scranton's going to build him a statue.; June 13, 2021 at 4:13 PM
Publius said...: When Cashman fires Boone, the first question from a reporter better be "Isn't this all your fault? Why aren't you resigning?"; June 13, 2021 at 4:43 PM
Scottish Yankee fan said...: Don't see what can be done to improve this team

We are using this luxury tax as a firm rule which gives us $4 million to spend

No matter how many prospects we offer the quality of player we need is going to cost way over $4 million in salary

If we have a fire sale the performances and injury history of our better players will put any competent GM off giving up much

I just think we are a shambles at every level and the buck stops with Cashman I refuse to believe that any other GM with a 26 man squad that cost 200 million dollars would not have a better and more balanced team

I am also astonished how he gets away with so little criticism on the various fan forums; June 13, 2021 at 4:54 PM
13bit said...: Remember people - it could have been worse. We somehow held them to 7. Don't let it go to your head.; June 13, 2021 at 4:55 PM
Leinstery said...: Everyone needs to go. Front office, coaching staff, and about half of the roster. Ideally we could rid ourselves of Hal, but that's no more than a dream.

The Dodgers win the world series and they go out and spends 40 million a year on Bauer to win another, meanwhile Hal's too fucking cheap to improve a shit roster. No that's not fair, he did spend money...on fucking Aaron Hicks.; June 13, 2021 at 5:05 PM
Kevin said...: They are freeeeeeeeeeeee, free fallin'; June 13, 2021 at 5:07 PM
TheWinWarblist said...: Pathetic.

Fuckers.; June 13, 2021 at 5:11 PM
Kevin said...: Blow it all up and rebuild for 2021 seems to run strong with many fans. Besides Judge (who should NEVER be traded, he's one of the best players in baseball who will be devalued because of past injuries), Chapman, and Torres, just WHAT can we expect in return? And why should we think that The Brain would know who to trade for? Plus there is that other timeline which might be the one we wind up on. The one where none of the players received ever make it out of the minors. People only remember the the successes, but the Astros did the rebuild for roughly a decade, their GM was torched by everyone, same with KC, Oakland and many more. Right now we have a bunch of good/decent players who are lacking coaching in all the fundamentals, and a fistful of pitchers. We need another fistful of pitchers, two left-handed outfielders who can actually play the outfield, a smart skilled shortstop, and an above average catcher. Speaking of catchers, back in the day that catchers played 120 or so games a year it made sense not to spend a fortune on backup catchers. But backup catchers play a lot more these days, IMHO opinion it's a roster spot that should be shored up with more talent.; June 13, 2021 at 5:25 PM
Alphonso said...: The EURO CUP matches are on.

No need to watch 11 strikeouts.; June 13, 2021 at 5:40 PM
Alphonso said...: How good can the coaches be on the Yankees?

1. Base running is still like in the little league opening game.
2. 11-15 strikouts per game
3. Inability to bunt or move runners over
4. Can't hit against the shift. Also; Won't hit against the shift.
5. No hitting with RISP.; June 13, 2021 at 5:43 PM
Rufus T. Firefly said...: It's not that the players are lazy,Bob. It's that they just don't care.; June 13, 2021 at 5:44 PM
Rufus T. Firefly said...: We're screwed until HAL dies or his wife gets Barnes as a divorce attorney.; June 13, 2021 at 5:46 PM
Publius said...: College baseball super regionals are on too. Winners go to Omaha. Good, pleasant, all-American baseball. Lots of options beside Brian Cashman baseball.; June 13, 2021 at 5:47 PM
Piiax said...: Yes, what a mess. HAL, HAL, o' Hal!; June 13, 2021 at 5:47 PM
Kevin said...: Alphonso, I'll had Won't choke up on the bat with two strikes, especially when a bloop drives in a runner. I remember back in the seventies in the aptly titled, "Reggie", the Reggie bragged that he wouldn't choke up on the bat for any reason, "Singles hitters drive Fords, home run hitters drive Cadillacs". That was in 1974. The RBI as a measure of a player's worth has now become under-valued.; June 13, 2021 at 5:49 PM
Carl J. Weitz said...: I posted this about 3 years ago. It is what I hoped to see after the 2018 season from Cashman. Or a reasonable facsimile. I think it's time to re-post something everyone here wants to wake up to one day soon:

Letter of Resignation

Brian Cashman
Yankee Stadium
1 E. 161st Street
Bronx, NY 10451

October 1, 2018

Dear Hal Steinbrenner:

Please accept this letter as my formal resignation from General Manager effective today, October 1, 2018.

This announcement comes with a heavy heart, as I have sincerely enjoyed my time at the New York Yankees. With your guidance and mentorship, this position has been one of the most rewarding work experiences in my life. I will greatly miss my teammates and friends made in other departments. All this was possible due to the unique culture at New York Yankees.

I am deeply appreciative of the numerous opportunities to build skills in numerous areas. I feel better prepared to face my next position’s challenges. I look forward to reconnecting in the future.

Please let me know how I can be of assistance during the transition period. I wish you and the organization the very best going forward.

Sincerely,

Brian McGuire Cashman; June 13, 2021 at 5:49 PM
Celerino Sanchez said...: The big news tomorrow will be, the Bronx Bombers sign Khris Davis and is .157BA. You know he hit 40HR a few time like Chris Carter.; June 13, 2021 at 5:53 PM
BernBabyBern said...: Everything you need to know about the 2021 Yankees summed up in one fact:

Roughned Odor batted third.; June 13, 2021 at 6:21 PM
HoraceClarke66 said...: I think Kevin provides an excellent summary of what needs to be done. And I think a lot of us see what's wrong with the team, and have for years.

The problem is how to do it—and as Kevin also reminds us, we are past the point where we can get anything of worth for the few players we have who are worth anything.

Rebuilding is hard, it takes years, and it requires someone who knows what he is doing. That person is not Brian Cashman. This is what we always run up against: The Cashman Conundrum.; June 13, 2021 at 9:36 PM
HoraceClarke66 said...: As for Reggie, Kevin, the man's braggadocio is annoying. But what's the old saying? "It ain't bragging if you can do it"?

11 first-place finishes, 6 pennants, 5 World Series—including 2 World Series MVP awards...we're talking accomplishments far beyond what anybody on this Yankees team has ever done.

Also...the big bopper in the 4 spot, even then, was almost never called upon to bunt, or choke-up. The trouble with this Yankees team is that EVERYBODY is supposed to be the Big Bopper, including those who can't really bop.

Ironically, too, Reggie provided the Yankees with the one thing they had lacked in 1976—and the one thing they lack now: a left-handed power bat made for Yankee Stadium.

But Michael Kay and Cashman tell us we don't need any such thing, and they are honorable men...; June 13, 2021 at 9:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Kevin's abstract. general roster of desiderata is useless--he mentions no specific names from other teams or the minors. Just empty pontifical babble.; June 13, 2021 at 11:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Of course the Yankees need to do a radical rebuild, from the front office on down (including an ironclad law that Randy Levine gets NO SAY in any baseball--as opposed to business or administrative--decision.

DickAllen et al., as discussed in another thread, are on the money about bringing up Florial--at least Florial, maybe Peraza too. The Yankee roster is clogged with Cashman's JUNK acquisitions and signings: Take, for example, Odor and Gardner. They are regular starters, but the overwhelming evidence is that they are FINISHED as MLB players and on the downward slide. Yet they keep appearing in the starting lineup when they shouldn't even be on the 40-man roster. Meanwhile, the organization has done its best to destroy the confidence of Clint Frazier, who still has great potential (based on his performance on both sides of the ball last year) if they would stop jerking him in and out of the starting lineup--which they've been doing since opening day--and stop yanking him for pinch hitters and defensive replacements. He, along with Tyler Wade and Florial and others, are languishing into Cashman's netherworld because of the organization's instinctive mistrust of young players and its addiction to "names," even when the names are aging and nosediving and wouldn't be on any other MLB roster. It's magical thinking of the most primitive sort--so please spare me the talk of Cashman's overreliance on analytics--teams like the Rays rely on analytics. Cashman and Boone rely on whatever panicked fantasy of the moment they pull out of their asses.; June 13, 2021 at 11:52 PM
Kevin said...: Everything comes down from Hal, of course. Cashman gets his budget, then he tries to put a team together. We don't know if Hal changed his plans midstream because of covid, but we should assume that he did. We are looking at the nightmare inducing spawn that resulted. My guess is that Hal does nothing major until covid restrictions on attendance are eliminated, and the new CBA is hammered out. We will weep until then, maybe longer.

Over the past decade plus The Brain's biggest mistake/fear is spending assets on having three to four quality starters. As a result, he would end up coming into the trading deadline looking for a starter that was very expensive especially with the "Yankee Tariff". Had he paid the fair price for pitching in the off-season he would have been looking for a much more easily attainable bat, and maybe the right bench player. He was unfairly criticized when he got burned on pitchers who lauded by the pundits, until they "spit the bit". It's this risk aversion that makes me believe that he needs to get kicked upstairs.

I'm a very pissed-off fan right now, lulled to sleep, reassured by the press that my misgivings were ill founded. I also perversely enjoy pissing and moaning with the rest of you over the taste of a cannoli turned turd in our mouths. As for myself, I will weep and root for the team as long as I believe that ownership is " working on it" in a serious and timely manner.; June 14, 2021 at 12:44 AM
Anonymous said...: "Cashman gets his budget, then he tries to put a team together." Quoth the Cashman flack. The problem is that Cashman is stupid and doesn't know what he's doing, irrespective of budgetary considerations.; June 14, 2021 at 1:31 AM
Anonymous said...: Anent budget--figures are for 2021:

New York Yankees Winning Percentage: .524 Payroll: $139,073,815 (2nd out of 30 teams)

Tampa Bay Rays Winning Percentage .631 Payroll: $44,553,783 (26th out of 30 teams)

So much for the asinine excuse about budgetary constraints on Cashman.; June 14, 2021 at 1:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Correction: Yankee winning percentage is now .508; Tampa Bay's is .636. End of fucking story on this myth of "Food Stamps Hal" and poor dollar-strapped Cashman.; June 14, 2021 at 1:43 AM
Anonymous said...: Another note: the Yankees will have to claw past four teams just to win the second wild card spot. Anyone betting his life savings on this one? Didn't think so.; June 14, 2021 at 1:47 AM
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